Okay, lets keep up with the analysis of data? That sounded weird, anyhoo if you missed the first part then click here.
Also, remember we are still using the skill chart for reference as to some of the conclusions. Okay? OK.
* Pain must be ridiculously powerful, maybe the strongest ninja in the Naruto universe.
First lets lay the facts. Jiraiya was among the top ninja of the Naruto world and overall on par with such a complete ninja of the level of Itachi who is a genius Uchiha and owner of a Mangekyou Sharingan. (Remember that Jiraiya was one of the few that Itachi showed concern to fight against)
Now with those facts in mind let us note the following main points:
- Pain man- handled Jiraiya even before revealing his “Six Paths of Pain” (Jiraiya was able to sustain himself without being completely dominated only for a while) and then smacked him around with summonings, taijutsu, ninjutsu and some weird genjutsu towards the end.
- Then there was the part that was not shown in between, where the 6 avatars of Pain attacked Jiraiya.It ended with Jiraiya only being able to trap one of them and loosing the ability to sustain Sage Mode anymore.
Even after knowing all this…
Given that Jiraiya pushed him so hard so as to make Pain reveal his secret… Pain’s abilities are far beyond an S-class ninja. This just means that Pain must be on some level comparable to that of Rikkudou Sennin (the sage who created ninjutsu) or even superior. I mean we know that Nagato (Pain’s “real name”) was able to control and use all of the 5 elemental chakras by the age of 7, yet we did not see him even use one of them during his fight with Jiraiya… nor do we know if he has the capacity of fusing them to make Mokuton and/or Hyouton like elemental techniques, given he has the eyes of the person who helped the first ninjas understand how to use them.
Then there’s facts like him finishing a whole civil war, by himself! Murdering the leader of the Hidden Rain Village (who even the Legendary Sannin had in upmost regards as a very powerful opponent) and all his allies and family, and has a technique in which he has complete awareness of all that happens in the radius of the whole village and to an unknown limit, it’s surroundings.
Pain’s techniques, experience and personal resume are probably as or even far greater then those of Madara. Pain may not have controlled the Kyuubi nor have a Mangekyo Sharingan, but he has the eyes and intelligence of the man who created the ninja world and all in it! He can control all the natural elements, can use all type of techniques and even separate into different bodies. He has an omniscient ability that far exceeds the Byakugan and is more penetrative and incisive than the Sharingan
* Note: The Sharingan and Byakugan are a derivation of the the Rinnegan. *
No doubt that by the present chapter (424), 6 Pain’s are very troublesome to handle even for an elite ninja as Kakashi and other Jonin and Chunin of Konoha… I can only wonder what the original body is capable of, I’m guessing it’s not friendly.
A true feeling of fear and desperation will come, to any mortal who dares challenge a god.
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well let me tell you that the current manga (446) is already a proven commodity in pain is lower than madara ….. Why say that? the fourth Hokage, who have seen everything that has gone through naruto. It confirmed that the fourth Hokage knew the death of his master jiraiya “WHY SAW THROUGH ALL NARUTO.” It was observed that minato showed fear or fear of PAIN. but to mention Madara hiso a very rare he said that no ninja without a special set of skills to face Madara (the man in the mask). minato said: Which apparently PAIN madara being controlled by their feelings and / or emotions (perhaps this sasuke by controlling their emotions but still I can not confirm 100%).
seen as a good Madara is the best villain of the series and no PAIN.
NOTE: The rinnengan stronger than the sharingan? – I. Does the rinnengan stronger than M.sharingan – I do not think so, as seen in the fight of naruto and PAIN … mmm am apparently the M. Sharingan is stronger than this … jiraiya said that “the rinnengan is the strongest of the 3 doujutsus” but does not know jiraiya M. Sharingan much less Sharigan M. immortal!
Yea regarding this fight, Jiraiya lost because he was extremely caught of guard, and Pain was completely prepared to fight him and lets face it, Pain had 6 of himself and all were nearly at Jiraiya’s level. And regarding Naruto’s fight with him, it was foretold in the sage prophecy that Naruto would be the winner, and he really only won because fate had a major role in it. Not to mention he had a few friends that knocked out a few of the Pain clones for him, Kakashi, Konohamaru, and Jiraiya had taken one out, I cant really remember the others, but still this had a lot to do with it. Not only that, but without the whole Ninetailed fox/Minato incident, Naruto would have been killed a few times during this fight. ALSO it was never Pains intention to kill Naruto. Just incapacitate him in order to get the kyuubi. Which everyone knows Naruto will either continue fighting no matter how injured or incapacitated he is, or well…thats it. He never gives up so incapacitation isn’t really an option for anyone fighting Naruto.